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WOLF BLITZER, CNN ANCHOR: President Bush is down in Orlando, Florida at
the Orlando Convention Center. He is about to begin a town meeting on
the economy, although a lot of questions, presumably, will come on other
issues including the war on terrorism. The president will open up with
some remarks, then continue with questions from the audience. Let's
listen to the president and his guests down in Orlando.
GEORGE W. BUSH, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Well, thank you all very
much. I'm really happy to visit Florida.
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The weather's beautiful. There's a lot of interesting things to do here.
I recommend people from outside of Florida to come and take a look at
Florida.
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It's a nice place to visit and a great place to live. One reason why is
because you've got a great governor.
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I'm not very objective.
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I also am proud to be traveling today with two members of my Cabinet.
First, somebody who made a living and raised his family right here in
Orange County, and that's Mel Martinez of the Housing and Urban
Development.
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There's no better person to help promote a significant part of the
American dream, that being homeownership, than somebody who came to our
country from a country that doesn't encourage homeownership; somebody
whose parents had the foresight to encourage him to be extricated from a
tyrannical society; somebody who understood Fidel Castro doesn't trust
people to own property...
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... and that's Mel Martinez.
We're working together to make sure homeownership becomes a reality for
any citizens in America who shares that dream, regardless of where they
live or their background.
I'm also traveling today with the secretary of labor, Elaine Chao.
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And there's a lot of members of the United States Congress who have
traveled here; homegrown Congressman Rick Keller, Ander Crenshaw...
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... Ander Crenshaw is with us.
Thank you for coming, Ander.
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Congressman Mark Foley, I appreciate you.
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Congressman John Mica.
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I recently worked closely with John and other Republicans and Democrats
to forge an airport security bill, which will allow the federal
government to supervise the security of our airports to make sure that
those who travel are comfortable with the fact that we're doing
everything in our power to make air travel as safe as it can possibly
be.
Thank you, John, for your leadership on that issue.
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Congressman Adam Putnam -- I had to make sure he was old enough, but,
Adam, thank you.
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Congressman Dave Walden -- thank you, Dave, for being here.
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Congressman Cliff Stearns from Florida as well.
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And finally I want to thank the mayor, Glenda Hood, and all
those who helped encourage you all to come so that I can answer any
questions you may have about what's going on in the country and the
world today.
Before I answer a few questions -- and I thought it was right; I know a
lot of citizens in Florida and around our country may have some
questions to the president. And I'm more than happy to answer some.
Before I do, I do want to say a few comments. One of the other reasons I
came here is to herald a program called Operation Paycheck. It's a
program that Jeb has put in place to help displaced workers find the
training necessary to find work; to help displaced workers around this
part of the world...
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... to help those who want to help themselves find the training
necessary to allow them to learn new skills to find work again. There's
nothing that hurts me more than to know as we head into the holiday
season that some of our citizens and some of their families hurt because
they've been laid off as a result of 9/11. And we have a role in the
government, and the state government and the federal government to
provide immediate help as part of an economic security package, is to
provide immediate help. And so one of things I did was announce a grant
for the state of Florida to encourage programs like Operation Paycheck,
one stop centers for people to find help.
And today I was pleased to announce that grant on behalf of the federal
government. But there's more to be done.
You've probably read about the fact that we're working with Congress.
And I must say, relations with Congress are a heck of a lot better than
they have been in the past because congressmen and senators of both
parties are interested about what's doing right for the American people.
And part of an economic security package is to make sure that we extend
unemployment insurance benefits for those who have been laid off as a
result of 9/11, and provide money; monies to help those who have been
laid off with things such as child care or health insurance or
transportation to a community college to enable them to learn a new
skill.
We have a role to play, and I urge the United States Congress to stop
talking and to get an economic security bill to my desk.
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The House has acted, and for that I'm grateful. And there's always --
the speaker can tell you: There's always a difference of opinion
sometimes between the House and the Senate, whether it's at the state or
federal level.
But the Senate needs to get a bill, get it reconciled and get it to my
desk so we can say we're doing the people's business in a way that'll
make you proud.
The truth of the matter is, economic security, however, the long term,
depends upon our ability to get our economy cranked up again so new jobs
are being created. We've got to think about how to stimulate job
creation.
The question that needs to be answered is how to create more jobs, and
I've laid out a blueprint to do just that. I think we ought to help
people with more money as we head into the Christmas season by making
sure that those who file but didn't pay taxes get a rebate, just similar
to the rebates you all have just recently received. That'll help low-
and moderate-income Americans.
We ought to accelerate the tax cuts that we have in place. More money in
people's pockets mean more economic activity.
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We ought to reform the corporate income tax system. This current system
says that as you lose money, you begin to pay more taxes. That doesn't
make any sense if we're worried about job creation. I don't think we
ought to be looking back for a decade, but I do think we ought to reform
the system as we head forward to make sense.
And finally, I think we ought to provide incentives for corporate
America to buy more plant and equipment. That'll encourage job creation.
We ought to ask the question in Washington: What's it take to create
more jobs so hardworking Americans can be able to put food on the table?
That's what we ought to be asking.
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Two other points I want to make before I answer your questions is
there's no question as well that in order to make sure our economy
recovers and people are able to find work, we've got to do everything we
can to prevent the enemy from hitting us again. We've got to be
diligent.
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And so we're following every hint, every lead, every possibility within
the confines of the Constitution.
My job is to provide security for the American people. My job is to make
sure that we use the assets at our disposal to ferret out those who
might hurt America and to bring them to justice.
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We can protect our homeland by beefing up law enforcement, by
encouraging the FBI to focus on prevention, by working closely with
local authorities. And we're doing that. But in the long term, the best
way to make sure America is safe is, to find those who would commit
terror against America, no matter where they run or where they hide, and
bring them to justice. And that's exactly what we're doing.
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Thank you.
For those of you who are the parents or the spouse or the brother or
sister of a member of our military who may not be home during the
holiday season, first I want to thank you for your sacrifice, but let
you know that the cause is just. And I know you're as proud as I am of
how our military is fighting the war on terror.
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We rescued humanitarian aid workers. We're slowly but surely demolishing
the government that felt comfortable in housing and abetting and feeding
and hiding those who committed murder in America. And slowly but surely
we're tightening the net on Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda.
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They think they can run and we'll tire. They think they can hide and we
will tire. But they have sorely misunderstood America. They don't
understand our will and our determination. This great land is united to
bring freedom to the world. We will bring them to justice, and we will
prevail.
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And so I'm honored that such a huge crowd would turn out. I want to
thank you all for coming. I look forward to answering your questions. I
want to thank you for your prayers, thank you for your love for the
country.
And now if you've got any questions, I'm here to answer them.
Yes, sir?
QUESTION: Thank you, Mr. President. Since the September 11 tragedy, many
Americans with college degrees, including myself, have been laid off.
What are some of things you're doing to help people like me who have
been out of work for the past few months?
BUSH: Well, first of all there's a lot of money spent from the federal
level to help -- to help with reeducation. And one of the programs that
I just mentioned is the use of federal monies to empower state
governments to provide opportunities for reeducation.
I just went by a center today. I sat next to a TWA pilot, highly
skilled, college-educated man, who got laid off as a pilot. His dream is
to go back to a local community college and become reeducated to become
a computer programmer. In other words, the idea is to mate those with
skills with jobs that actually exist.
The problem with the kind of a federal approach and only federal
approach is that we may encourage you to become trained in a job that
doesn't exist. And so the real thing is, is there money available for
job training? Is there money available from the federal government to
say to Governor Bush of Florida, "Here's some dough, set up a
system that will actually match people with skills and jobs that
exist"?
There are jobs in Florida. And the fundamental question is, how do we
encourage those with skills -- to funnel those with skills into those
jobs?
Secondly, I do believe we ought to extend the amount of time one can
receive unemployment insurance benefits. I think that's important.
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And I also believe that we need to have what's called national emergency
grants, which are basically federal expenditures to states to allow
people, to help, for example, make health care payments. One of the
things I worry about and I'm deeply concerned about is somebody who's
had a good health care plan is no longer able to afford health care. And
so we ought to help people be able to afford those premiums and those
benefits until they're able to get back to work.
The long term, though, is, I keep repeating it, is let's stimulate job
growth. The best thing for you to be able to find a job is for there to
be more jobs available. And I believe we're on the verge of doing just
that. I mean, we've got great tax policy in place. We cut taxes this
year. We've got taxes cut for the next years coming, which will
stimulate economic growth. Alan Greenspan has got monetary policy in
such a shape that interest rates are low. Energy prices are reasonable.
And so we got the framework for growth.
And by the way, the same entrepreneurial spirit that existed in America
prior to September 11 still exists today. They can't take that away from
us.
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QUESTION: Mr. President, we appreciate you coming to the community and
putting a great spotlight on the tourism industry.
For the past 16 years, I own a small transportation company here, 10 of
which I operate at the Orlando International Airport. Due to the
slowdown in the economy and certainly the events of September 11, I was
forced to close my doors, putting 252 employees out of work, not to
mention their families and others who support my business.
We have taken advantage of some of the programs you put into place, such
as the SBA disaster loan plan. We've been monitoring that and found out
that the application is bogged down in the bureaucracy of the system.
What can you do to help us, as small business, speed that process as our
window is closing rapidly on us?
BUSH: Well, first, get your card and find out why your case is bogged
down in bureaucracy.
I can't stand bureaucracy. (LAUGHTER)
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I appreciate the hardworking people who work for the federal government.
I appreciate people who care enough to work for the government to make
people -- to do their job. I like that.
But what I don't like is systems that get so cumbersome that those who
are trying to help you don't get the product out.
I put a good man as the head of the SBA. And I believe that he's doing
everything he can to make sure that applications don't get stuck in a
system, that hardworking federal employees are able to match their
desires with -- to help you with the ability to do so.
And so, to answer your question, I need to know your case. And I'm going
to send a man right out here to ask you.
Where's Logan (ph)?
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OK.
QUESTION: First of all, I'd like to thank you for being here today, Mr.
President Bush. I'd like to know what the children and the young people
in America -- how can they help the economy?
BUSH: Listen to your mother.
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I'm still listening to mine.
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I tell you what you can do, I tell you how you can help the economy:
study hard, learn a skill, have ambition, make the right choices in
life, so that when you get old enough you're a productive citizen.
That's the absolute best thing you can do.
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But there are other things you can do. There are other things you can
do.
I see women of cover here. And I want to thank you for coming from the
Muslim community here in America.
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Right after the attacks I went to a mosque to send a signal that the war
against terror has nothing to do with the Muslim faith. It has
everything to do with evil, evil people. What you can do to help America
beyond the economy is to remind people that regardless of our religious
beliefs, we're all, first and foremost, Americans. That this is a
country...
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And you know what else you can do? You can find somebody in need and
give them a hand.
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I'm worried about the fact that charitable giving in America has dropped
off as a result of 9/11. It didn't drop up because of 9/11, it dropped
off because a lot of people gave money to help the victims, which is
great. But there's an aftermath to the attacks that we've got to worry
about. There are still people in America who hurt. They were hurting
before September 11; they hurt today. And one of things you can do as a
seventh grader, and all of us can do is remember that, and give of time
and money, to help fellow Americans in need.
I can't think of any way better to make sure our country remains strong
in the aftermath of the terrorist attack, is to help; is to ask the
question, "What can I do?" You should not only honor the
values of America, but honor the values of a good neighborhood, which is
neighbor helping neighbor in need.
Yes, ma'am?
QUESTION: Good afternoon, Mr. President. First of all, it's an honor to
be here with you, and we want to thank you for your godly leadership in
serving this country.
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My question today is in regards also to small business and self-
employment. As many Americans are losing their corporate jobs and are
going into business for themselves, is the government planning to
provide assistance to the self-employed and small business, who do not
have the tangible collateral and livelihood to support a loan approval?
BUSH: Well we do. We've got an SBA whose job it is to encourage
entrepreneur growth. Evidently it may be somewhat bound in paperwork --
unnecessary paperwork requirements. It's good to get out of Washington
and get the real story.
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But that's what the SB's for, is to encourage -- and you're bogged down
in paperwork as well, I take it. OK. My man Logan (ph).
Look, the government can never guarantee success in the private sector.
That's not what happens in a system based upon free enterprise. We can
help people, but there are no guarantees about business. We're a risk
and reward oriented society. And so the best thing we can do is help you
to get your business started. But it's up to you to have a good product,
it's up to you to understand the market, and it's up to you to fashion a
game plan that will work. And what we can do is help there, and they are
all kinds of ways to do that.
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You're next. Yes, sir?
QUESTION: First one is a thank you from all of our employees and the
many of people who have worked -- when the taxpayer rebates came, for
many of them they said they don't know what they would've done if it
hadn't been for those. So very much a sincere thank you for that.
BUSH: Thank you very much.
QUESTION: The second one is a question.
What are we doing right now to assist our allies in Israel during their
time of terrorist attacks?
BUSH: Yes. The question is about Israel. I had the prime minister of
Israel in my office on Sunday. He was coming Monday, but decided to come
sooner because of the attacks. And I commiserated with him, because a
lot of innocent people had been killed or hurt as a result of terrorist
activity.
The terrorist attacks on Israel -- first of all, Israel's got no better
friend than the United States, as far as I'm concerned.
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Israel's a democracy. We share a lot of values with Israel. I have a
dream: I can't think of anything better than to have a dream for peace
for Israel. I think the Israeli people want to have peace.
But we learned in such a vivid way that there are elements in the Middle
East that hate the thought of peace and will be willing to use terror to
derail any type of peace process.
And so the spotlight now flashes on the Middle East in a terrible way,
obviously, but it also reminds people around the world that if we want
peace that it's important for those advocates of peace to help root out
terror and to bring it to justice.
It is incumbent upon Mr. Arafat now to respond forcefully to root out
those who killed. It's incumbent upon other friends and allies of ours
around the world to help bring those terrorists to justice if we want
peace in the Middle East, which I do -- which I do. We've got to bring
the terrorists to justice. We cannot...
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We cannot let a few -- we cannot let a few prevent the many from
achieving a dream, which is lasting peace in the Middle East. I hope
that happens. I hope it happens for the sake of Israel. I hope it
happens for the sake of the Palestinians, who suffer because of the lack
of job opportunity and killing and war. I hope it happens.
But first things first: We must rid the world of terror.
Yes, ma'am?
QUESTION: Thank you, President Bush. It's great to have you here in the
state of Florida.
I work at the airport at the Hyatt hotel, and I'm worried. I have,
luckily, kept my job, but now we're getting our hours cut and stuff, and
they're trying to do the best that they can, and I'm in jeopardy of
losing my benefits.
Now I'm a single mother of three kids, and I can't be without
benefits...
BUSH: Right.
QUESTION: ... like health insurance, per se.
BUSH: Well, I think that one of the things that we need to work on
during the next session is how to make sure that the working uninsured
have benefits. I proposed a plan, through the tax credit system, to
provide just that, to make sure that you don't lose your benefits if
this were to happen.
Of course, the key thing, again, I keep harking back to this, is we got
to grow our economy, is we got to put a stimulus -- or a security
package -- a stimulus package in place that encourages job growth.
Now, the government did act quickly when it came to your industry. After
all, we provided a significant amount of loans and grants for the
airline industry to make sure the airplanes, which were directly hit by
the attacks, continued to fly.
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And I hope that the measures we have put in place, financial measures,
plus the security measures, will convince the American people to get on
airplanes and come down to Florida so that your hotel has got customers.
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QUESTION: Mr. President, I'm an educator for the Orange County Public
School Systems. And first of all, I'd like to thank you very much for
your ethics and integrity, because that's what we're all about in a
nation.
BUSH: Thank you.
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QUESTION: I'd like to share that I am very appreciative of the focus
that you and the first lady have brought to your administration on
reading instruction. And we were very happy when that took place. And we
can also appreciate the fact that, since 9/11, your energy and your
focus has been diverted to issues that are to protect our country. And
we thank you very much for that.
But the reality is that 9/11 has also impacted education. We are about
to experience one of the biggest cuts that we have experienced in many
years here in Florida, and we're very concerned about our children and
about our teachers, and their future as well. And I would just like to
hear from you where you are today with education, in terms of your focus
and energy.
BUSH: You bet. Thank you very much. I appreciate that question.
Education needs to be the number one priority of any state. I'm
convinced it's the number one priority of this governor here.
I believe that there needs to be a clear role for local people, state
people and a limited role for the federal government, because I do not
believe one size fits all when it comes to educating children.
Now having said that -- having said that...
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... I do believe that the federal government has got responsibilities
for providing funds for disadvantaged and for beefing up reading
programs around the country. So one of the things that we're going to do
is to work with Jeb and other states on enhancing reading programs.
There's no question about it, that if a child can't read, all the rest
of the subjects are basically irrelevant. Reading is the absolute
gateway to knowledge and, therefore, what needs to be done is a
comprehensive national reading agenda.
To answer your question, it's about to happen when the Congress passes
the education reform bill and the education bill, the funding mechanism
necessary for education.
But education is a priority not only here, but as my good wife reminded
everybody on the radio, it's got to be a priority around the world.
There is no excuse for the Taliban government to have treated women and
young girls the way they have and not educated people. Education...
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Education is a domestic priority. No question about it, it's a domestic
priority. And we're increasing education spending at the federal
government to help local districts.
But we also got to remind people around the world, if we want peace in
the world other nations must do a better job of treating people with
respect by making sure that they are educated as well.
Speaking about education, you go to school, don't you? Let's here your
question.
QUESTION: I don't have a comment, I have a question. And actually I
don't have a question, I have a comment.
BUSH: OK.
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QUESTION: You've been doing a good job for the United States. Can you
shake my hand?
BUSH: Yes.
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(LAUGHTER)
I will in a minute. You want to do it right now?
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I'll do better, I'll give you a kiss.
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You're a sweet girl. Thank you.
Yes, ma'am?
QUESTION: Thank you very much for coming to Florida. We love you.
BUSH: Thanks.
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QUESTION: And God bless you.
This area is so dependent on tourism. Since 9/11, as you know, every
where (ph) else it's so bad. Is there anything that the government is
doing to attract other industry into our area and to other areas that
are so dependent on this?
BUSH: I think -- actually, we'll get Governor Bush to answer that
question.
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I'm afraid to share the mike with him. He might never give it up,
though.
(LAUGHTER) Absolutely. There's a diversification program. There is. And
Jeb is wise enough to understand that this part of the world needs to be
diversified. And tourism will always be an integral part of the central
Florida economy. But there's a lot of interesting diversification going
on here.
Now, the federal government's role is not to tell states how to
diversify their economies. The federal government's role is to provide
an overall -- a picture for economic vitality and growth. Our job is to
think about how best to grow the entire national economy and let states
figure out -- and local districts and communities figure out how to
diversify.
One of the interesting battles we got going in Congress is trade. We
need to be able to trade freely, it seems like to me, in the world.
We got the best farmers in the world in the United States -- the best
farmers. It seems like it makes sense to open up other people's markets
so we can sell our products around the world. Now, that is the place
where the federal government, it seems like to me, has got to address
job growth and diversification through large national issues.
I'm sure the Congress -- these congressman understand the value of free
trade.
BUSH: I look forward to working with them when it comes to trade
promotion authority, if it ever makes it to my desk.
But it requires wise governors and local officials to understand the
opportunities through diversification. And I believe you've got a good
governor. I keep hating to tout the guy too much, because they'll think
I'm not very objective, but I'm not.
Yes, ma'am?
QUESTION: Hi. President Bush, we'd like to thank you for coming here
today, and just to help you out with her question about I wanted to tap
our governor on the back, because we do have a program for people that
-- I'm self-employed, and I don't make a lot of money, but we do have a
program in this state for people like ourselves, who we can buy
insurance through the state for our children, in case you lose your job.
So I wanted to tap our governor...
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BUSH: That's the CHIPs program.
QUESTION: No, it's Florida Healthy Kids here.
BUSH: Florida -- same thing.
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QUESTION: Right. She said she doesn't qualify, but if you lost your job,
you would.
BUSH: All right.
Yes, sir?
QUESTION: First of all thank you. Second of all, I work in a Hard Rock
Hotel here in Orlando, and we love to have people come through our
doors, just as every hotel and every theme park here does. My question
is for the federal government -- not just for Orlando, but for
everywhere. What is being done to encourage travel? I've seen a few
commercials, not just within the country, but abroad. We're a great
place to come and...
BUSH: Well, there's a marketing plan, and you know, one of things, if
you noticed how I start off my talk here -- I've got a rather large
microphone these days, and I've been encouraging people to travel. I
think the best thing we can do in America to -- first of all you can't
make people do what they don't want to do. I mean, if they're not
interested in traveling, they're not going to travel.
On the other hand, if they're worried about security on airplanes, we
can do something about that. That's why we've rallied Guard troops all
across the country in airports, until we have the new security plan in
place, we're putting Guards in place, and we've sped up the training and
the placement of air marshals on airplanes. I want the American people
to know that if you want to travel, and that's your desire, if you're
planning to do this in your budget, and you've been thinking about it,
air travel is getting safer and safer and safer. And that's the best
thing the federal government can do.
Now we're not going to, you know, pick one part of the world -- region
over another. I don't think that's the role of the federal government.
And therefore, that's why Jeb and other states, my old state of Texas
for example, is trying to encourage -- always trying to compete for
people who want to travel to come to our respective states. But the
federal government can help by making sure things are more secure, and
people feel safe. It's really our fundamental responsibility right now
is the safety of the American people.
I know a lot of people have got some concerns about how safe we can make
the country, and are we doing things within the Constitution. I want to
talk about a couple of things to put your mind at ease. I'll ask myself
a question.
Why are you having the opportunity to have a military tribunal? Now I
want you to remember that we are at war. The United States is under
attack. And at war, the president needs to have the capacity to protect
the national security interest and the safety of the American people.
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And so I asked, "What are all my options as your commander in
chief? What are the options to protect America? What do I need to know
about what might occur to make sure that I can come in front of the
folks in Orlando, Florida, and say we're doing everything in our power,
or we have every option in our power to keep you safe?" Well, one
of those scenarios is military tribunals.
No one has been tried in a military tribunal, except I, by executive
order, provided myself with the option of having a military tribunal,
which will be used for -- no American citizen will go to a military
tribunal, they'd only be used for those who aren't American citizens.
And let me give you one example of why it may be necessary -- why it may
be necessary to use such a tribunal.
What happens if, in the course of this war, that we apprehend or capture
an enemy and we want to bring him to justice, and in the course of
bringing him to justice, what if the information necessary to bring him
to justice would compromise our capacity to keep America safe?
In the court of law there would be all kinds of questions that might
compromise our ability to gather incredibly important intelligence to
prevent the next attack from happening to America.
It seems like to me that the president of the United States ought to
have the option to protect the national security interests of the
country and therefore protect America from further attack.
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You've probably read about the interviews that are taking place. There
are countries that we're certain of where people who come from those
countries are likely to commit a terrorist act against America, and
they're here on our soil -- there are certain citizens from those
countries on our soil. We're a free country. They're here because we're
a great country, and we've got liberties that we'll protect.
But we're asking those who are here, as guests, enjoying our freedom, to
voluntarily participate in helping us understand how best to protect the
country. Nobody's being forced into an interview. People are being --
"Why don't you help us? Why don't those of you who are guests in
our country help us make the land more secure? It's in your interests,
and it's certainly in our interests. If you know somebody or know
something, help us."
We're in the business now of gathering as much information as we
possibly can gather, and we're acting on that information. People are
detained in America under material witness claims. It's against the law,
by the way, to publish the name of those people before they get up in
front of a grand jury. We've got people that we've pulled aside because
of who they may or may not know and it turns out they violated their
immigration status. It turns out, as we're looking for leads, we found
people who have actually committed other crime.
All of them in America are entitled to a lawyer. All of them in America
are entitled to make phone calls. We're the freest society in the world.
That's what America's all about. And at the same time, we're doing
what's necessary to protect the people at home.
(APPLAUSE)
Yes, sir?
QUESTION: How you doing, Mr. President?
BUSH: Pretty darn good.
(LAUGHTER)
QUESTION: Thanks for coming to Florida and talking to us.
You've given billions of dollars to the airline industry to try to help
get them stimulated and get them going.
Are you going to do any, kind, of grants or any type of benefits for the
hospitality industry, as we're struggling to get by?
BUSH: Well, part of the key is that the first industry deeply affected
after 9/11 was the airline industry. And without an airline industry
there is no hospitality -- well, there may be a hospitality industry,
certainly not as vibrant a hospitality industry as we'd like. It is the
first major industry affected. And so our strategy was to make sure that
we provide the industry that actually affects hospitality directly the
means necessary to stay in business. To me that seemed like the most
important, initial leg of a strategy.
And in the meantime, we're trying to help those workers who've been
affected within the hospitality industry. I'm hopeful that as a result
of an airline stimulus -- or airline security package, as well as a
safety package, and an economic stimulus package, this economy will come
back, people will have the money necessary to travel, people will feel
safe to travel and the hospitality industry to recover.
But to answer your question directly, no. The answer is, is that the
first step, and we think the primary step, needed to be what we've
already done.
Yes, ma'am?
QUESTION: (OFF-MIKE)
BUSH: Tax incentives for travel? That hasn't made it to my radar screen
yet.
Yes, sir?
QUESTION: (OFF-MIKE)
BUSH: They with you?
QUESTION: Yes, sir. And my wife and my mother-in-law and my friends,
they're in the tourism industry. Yes, my family has been very well
affected by 9/11.
But I have a question about the youth. Is there anything that you or
your brother, Governor Bush, can do to give the youth the drive and will
to look for a better future? Because it seems like a lot of them don't
-- seems as if they don't have anything to lose, so they don't have
anything to drive for. Thank you. BUSH: I can think of a couple of
things. One is to remind moms and dads of America that no matter what
you're doing during the day job, your most important job you'll ever
have is to love your children, is to tell your children you love them.
(APPLAUSE)
Secondly, and it goes to this lady's point right here, is to make sure
that every child in America is well educated, starting with every child
learning to read. There's nothing like an education to provide hope for
people.
Part of the reason why people are discouraged is because they lose hope.
They say, "This society isn't meant for me." A hopeful society
is an educated society. And so we got to make sure we get it right. We
have an education -- a focus on education, understanding that education
is the gateway to such great freedom and opportunity.
And finally, one of my initiatives that I'm most proud of that passed
the House of Representatives, and I think will have a significant impact
in America, is to rally one of the great strengths of our country, and
that is the faith-based initiatives and faith- based programs which
exist all across the country.
(APPLAUSE)
I want to talk about one. I want to talk about a couple. First of all,
government shouldn't worry about faith. We ought to welcome faith. We
ought to understand that...
(APPLAUSE)
We ought to welcome those programs that exist because somebody said,
"What can I do?"
BUSH: "What can I do to help a neighbor in need? What can I
do?"
And it's not a particular faith I'm talking about. I'm talking about the
Muslim faith, I'm talking about Judaism, I'm talking about Christianity.
This isn't -- no, the faith doesn't have a lock on a -- you know, on a
certain religion. I'm talking about people who have heard a call.
And there are all kinds of programs all around America based upon faith.
And many of them have asked the question, "What can I do to
surround a child with love? What can I do to make sure that a child has
got -- somebody's got their arm around them, saying, 'Somebody loves
you.'" There's a lot of children who have no love in their life.
Imagine what it would be like growing up in America, how tough it would
be if your mom or your dad were in prison. How tough is that? The degree
of difficulty for success is incredibly hard for a person. And we've got
a program that we hope to get out of Congress, House passed it, get out
of the Senate, that says, "We want to fund, make monies available
for mentoring programs, faith-based or not, but mentoring programs the
sole purpose of which will be take a son or a daughter of a person in
prison and encourage some loving soul to say, 'I love you. America is
meant for you. This country belongs to you. Get educated and go after it
with all your heart and all your soul.'"
So there's a lot that can be done in society. You know, government must
not fear these programs that exist in neighborhoods all around the
country based upon faith. We must not fear. We must fear government
embracing religion. We ought to have a fear of state religion. That's
not what we're for. We don't want for one governmental religion.
Government will never, you know, say, "This is the religion."
We're a free society for religion.
But government can embrace programs started because of faith and
religion and encourage those programs to foster in neighborhoods all
across America. I'm passionate on the subject because I understand the
power of faith in people's lives, I understand what it can mean.
(APPLAUSE)
QUESTION: Mr. President, early in your administration there was a lot of
discussion of drilling for oil in Alaska and the Gulf. Now that prices
are low at the pump, what are you doing to ensure that?
BUSH: Yes. Well, I'm trying to get an energy plan out of Congress. The
House of Representatives passed a good energy bill. It is stuck in the
Senate. And I believe it is in our national interest to have an energy
plan, to have a strategy to get us less dependent on foreign sources of
crude oil.
(APPLAUSE)
Part of that energy plan means that we've got to enhance conservation;
we've got to encourage technologies that will enable us to conserve
better. And we can do that with the proper incentives, and this plan of
ours that passed that the House has got incentives to encourage
conservation.
And we're making great strides in our society, by the way, of
conserving. We're doing a much better job, and we can do an even better
job.
Part of it also recognizes that we need more supply, and there are
several places we can find supply. One is, I believe that the nuclear
industry is safe enough now to encourage more nuclear power in America.
I believe that is necessary.
(APPLAUSE)
I also strongly believe that we can explore for natural gas in Alaska
without damaging the environment. And I believe that's necessary to do
that.
(APPLAUSE)
You know, when the vote came up in the House, a lot of people came
forward to work on behalf of the vote because they understood not only
to mean energy security, it also meant jobs. I was pleased to report
that the Teamsters, for example, led by Jimmy Hoffa Jr., was out
campaigning for -- or lobbying or working for this bill, because it
meant jobs.
But I've got great faith in the technology and the ability of our
country, if given proper incentive, to become less dependent and more,
you know, wise about how we develop our energy sources. I truly do.
But we need a bill, and we needed to get it out of the Senate. Energy
prices are low, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't worry about our
future, because if the economies of the world come back we might be in a
tight again, in which case we're going to wondering where was the energy
policy that the president was arguing for back in the year 2001.
Yes, ma'am?
QUESTION: Hi, Mr. President.
BUSH: I'm not nervous if you are.
(LAUGHTER)
QUESTION: Oh. I wrote it out because I thought I would be
nervous. And I'm here with sister Maggie (ph) and my family.
BUSH: Good. Hi, Maggie (ph).
QUESTION: And I'm Caitlin (ph). Our family wants to help out our
country, and we think that making families strong will make our country
strong.
My parents believe that eating meals together will do that. Is this
something that you did when you were a kid and that you and Mrs. Bush
believe in?
BUSH: I did eat with my family so long as my mother wasn't cooking.
(LAUGHTER)
Wait a minute. Just kidding, mom.
She was one of the great fast food cooks of all time.
(LAUGHTER)
Just kidding, mom.
We ate a lot together. We did, and I think it's important to do that. I
think -- that's a very interesting question.
You know, we live in a society that's a busy society. We live in a
society where it's so easy to forget the fundamentals. But one of the
really positive things that has come out of the evil of 9/11 was that
people are beginning to ask, you know, "What's important? What's
important?"
I think you've touched on something really important, and that's family.
And the idea of a mom and dad prioritizing family is all about not only
enhancing the quality of life of their children but collectively making
America so much stronger and so much better after the evils.
There has been a -- this is an unbelievably great country we live in.
The values of America are so strong, the people are so real and so good.
And 9/11 has brought, in many instances, the best in America. Part of
that is the individual -- the decisions individual families make about
setting new priorities in their lives. A lot of it has to do with
helping people in need.
I'll never forget the story of people in a Midwestern city, when they
heard me on TV talk about how distressed I was that women of cover would
not leave their homes for fear of some other American treating them
harshly, and then Jewish citizens and Christians alike getting on the
phone and saying, "We want to help you. We want to take you to the
neighborhood store. This isn't the America we know. No, the country --
this country is a fabulous country." They thought they hurt us --
the evil ones. They have made us stronger, more real and a better land.
(APPLAUSE)
QUESTION: Mr. President, we thank you for coming, on behalf of the
clergy of Orlando. We're going to be having a summit this next week --
12/12 summit, and I'm a pastor. And we want to know what we can do.
We're praying for strategies of how we can assist you and our government
and assist our communities.
BUSH: First thing you can do is make sure people of all faiths are
represented at your prayer session. It sends such a strong signal.
(APPLAUSE)
It reminds people of the greatness of America. The evil people we fight,
they don't believe in religious freedom. They want it their way or no
way. And if you're not their way, they'll treat you harshly.
That's why, by the way, when we liberated cities throughout Afghanistan,
people lined the roads and cheered out of joy and happiness.
Secondly, you need to pray for the good Lord to protect America, to
provide a shield over our country, to prevent us from harm.
(APPLAUSE)
QUESTION: Mr. President, I want to say, they haven't won. I got in my
car today and I'm in the same building with you, speaking to you. They
have not won.
BUSH: Thank you very much.
QUESTION: And would you say hello to my son Jordan (ph), and my daughter
Patricia (ph)?
BUSH: Jordan (ph) and who?
QUESTION: Patricia (ph).
BUSH: Hi, Patricia (ph). How are you?
How old is Patricia (ph)?
QUESTION: Five, and Jordan's (ph) in third grade. And Jordan (ph) has a
question, if I could give him the microphone.
BUSH: You bet. You're mother's relaying the mike to you, Jordan (ph).
QUESTION: One thing, Mr. President, is that you have no idea how much
you've done for this country, and another thing is that how did you feel
when you heard about the terrorist attack?
BUSH: Well...
(APPLAUSE)
Thank you, Jordan (ph).
Well, Jordan (ph), you're not going to believe what state I was in when
I heard about the terrorist attack. I was in Florida. And my chief of
staff, Andy Card -- actually I was in a classroom talking about a
reading program that works. And I was sitting outside the classroom
waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane hit the tower -- the TV was
obviously on, and I use to fly myself, and I said, "There's one
terrible pilot." And I said, "It must have been a horrible
accident."
But I was whisked off there -- I didn't have much time to think about
it, and I was sitting in the classroom, and Andy Card, my chief who was
sitting over here walked in and said, "A second plane has hit the
tower. America's under attack."
And Jordan (ph), I wasn't sure what to think at first. You know, I grew
up in a period of time where the idea of America being under attack
never entered my mind -- just like your daddy and mother's mind
probably. And I started thinking hard in that very brief period of time
about what it meant to be under attack. I knew that when I got all the
facts that we were under attack, there would be hell to pay for
attacking America.
(APPLAUSE)
I tried to get as many facts as I could, Jordan (ph), to make sure I
knew, as I was making decisions, that I knew exactly what I was basing
my decisions on. I've got a fabulous team. A president can't possibly be
president without a good team. It starts with having a great wife, by
the way.
(APPLAUSE)
And so I got on the phone from Air Force One asking to find out the
facts. You've got to understand, Jordan (ph), that during this period of
time, there were all kinds of rumors floating around. Some of them were
erroneous. For example, there's a news report saying that the State
Department had been attacked. I needed to know what the facts were.
But I knew I needed to ask. I knew that if the nation's under attack,
the role of the commander in chief is to respond forcefully to prevent
other attacks from happening.
And so I talked to the secretary of defense. One of the first acts I did
was to put our military on alert.
An interesting thing happened shortly thereafter. Condoleezza Rice who
was not with me, but was with the vice president, because they were in
the White House compound, called me on the Air Force One after that, and
said she'd gotten a call from Russia, from Vladimir Putin, who
understood why we were putting our troops on alert, and therefore wasn't
going to respond. That was an important phone call, because when I was
coming up, and a lot of other older-looking people coming up with me,
that would have never have happened in the past. An alert by the United
States would have caused Russia to go on an alert, which would've
created a complicated situation. But that wasn't the case.
By the way we're heading into a new era. One of the positive things that
come out of evil was a reassessing relationships, in order to make the
world more peaceful. I believe it's important for us to have positive
relations with our former enemy and to rethink the defenses of the
United States of America.
(APPLAUSE)
At any rate, I knew I had a job to do. And I was quoted in the press the
other day as saying I haven't regretted one thing I've decided. And
that's the truth. Every decision I've made I stand by, and I'm proud of
the decisions I've made.
(APPLAUSE)
QUESTION: Mr. President, peace and blessings be unto you. I'm
representing the Muslim community of Orlando. And I would really like to
thank you for being such a great role model, practicing what this
country believes in -- the higher ideals that this country believes in
-- your support to the Muslim community in combating racism.
I am an educator, I am a mother and I have a strong faith. Thank you so
much for holding these values high and trying to wipe the stereotypes
that the Taliban has been represented of Muslim women. I am an educator
educating Muslim children in this Orlando city. Thank you very much, Mr.
President.
BUSH: God bless. Thank you.
(APPLAUSE)
Listen, I've got a job to do. I got to get back to my temporary home. By
the way, my address is in Washington, and my home is going to be back in
Texas one of these days. But I have got to go back.
I wish I could stay and answer questions all night. But I've got to --
I'll be right there. He's find.
I've got to get back and go to work.
I can't tell you what an honor it is to have been here. I want to thank
you all for your great questions and for your incredibly warm reception.
It's a huge honor to be the greatest -- to be the president of the
greatest country in the world.
God bless you all and may God bless America.
BLITZER: President Bush began by saying he was happy to be back in
Florida. He clearly demonstrated that over the course of the past hour,
answering questions on a wide range of issues from the economic recovery
to the war on terrorism.
We're going to have complete details. Our senior White House
correspondent, John King, is on the scene. We will get to him. Plus
today's other news when we come back.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
BLITZER: President Bush just wrapped up a one-hour town meeting in
Orlando, in which he answered questions on a wide range of issues,
including the war on terrorism. Let's bring in our CNN White House
correspondent, John King. He is on the scene in Orlando.
John, give us some of the headlines that you discerned.
JOHN KING, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Wolf, this event was designed to promote
the president's views on the economy, to nudge the Congress to pass a
stimulus plan as soon as possible and to accept the president view of
what should be in that plan. And the president certainly made his case
as he answered some questions here from workers who have been displaced
or had to close down their businesses because of the events of September
11.
Mr. Bush also asked, of course, about a major developing story in the
world between the conflict between the Israelis and the Palestinians.
This is the first time he has spoken about this since his meeting Sunday
with the Israeli prime minister, Ariel Sharon. At the White House, the
president was asked what he was doing to help the U.S. ally, Israel, by
a member of the audience here, and Mr. Bush made clear, as the violence
continues, and as Israel retaliates for the deadly suicide bombings over
the weekend, that he puts the onus clearly on the Palestinian leader,
Yasser Arafat. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
BUSH: It is incumbent upon Mr. Arafat now, to respond forcefully, to
route out those who killed. It's incumbent upon other friends and allies
and friends of ours around the world to help bring those terrorists to
justice, if we want peace in the Middle East, which I do -- which I do.
We've got to bring the terrorist to justice.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
KING: A young boy in the audience here asked the president to recall
just what he thought when he was informed of the events of September 11.
The president recalled he was here in Florida in Sarasota at a school.
He said at first, when he was told that one plane had hit the World
Trade Center, that he thought it was a horrible accident, some form of
terrible error by the pilot of that plane.
Then he recalled his chief of staff Andy Card coming into the school
room and telling him a second plane had hit the World Trade Center. The
president said then he knew it was a terrorist attack, that America was
under attack, and the president said, he knew then that those who were
responsible for that attack quote, there would be hell to pay.
The president again using this event to push the Congress to pass a
stimulus plan by Christmas. He had hoped to have that plan by
Thanksgiving. Mr. Bush saying, one way the United States can improve its
security is to have a stronger economy but he also promised the people
here defending the military tribunals, defending people being rounded up
for questioning, that just because they come from Middle Eastern roots,
Arabs in this country, Mr. Bush saying the government is doing all it
can to try to prevent future attacks and to improve airline and other
transportation safety -- Wolf.
BLITZER: John, and on this day, the president and his treasury
secretary, Paul O'Neil also took another step, trying to crack down on a
U.S.-Muslim charity that they say is really a front for a terrorist
organization. Give us the headline.
KING: Well, for the first time the administration's financial front in
the war on terrorism has gone beyond the al Qaeda network. The Texas
based organization, you noted, is called the "Holy Land
Foundation." It, according to the Bush Administration, is a front
for the Hamas organization, a terrorist group that operates out of the
Palestinian territories.
This, part of a continuing crack down on financial support for terror
groups, but this is significant, because it is the first time the
administration's crack down has not involved individuals and
organizations that the administration says is linked to al Qaeda, Osama
bin Laden's network. This organization, the administration says,
supports Hamas, the organization, again, the Holy Land Foundation,
vehemently denies that. It says it has nothing to do with the terrorist
group, but the administration says, once this case goes to court, it is
confident that its evidence will hold up -- Wolf.
BLITZER: John King in Orlando. Thank you very much.
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